If you must have sex, and do not want to get pregnant, pay for your own birth control.
You do not have a right to force someone else buy it for you.
I think the bigger issue is about women’s health, not just contraception alone. Women use the pill for many other reasons aside from preventing an unwanted pregnancy. There are many health benefits for women to be…
No. It’s about forcing someone to buy for something that violates their conscience. Viagra does not do this. Pay for it yourself.(and stop forcing your belief that abortion is good for women on the rest of us.)
IT’S NOT EVEN ABOUT ABORTION! Did you even read what I wrote? It’s about women’s health.
You do know that Viagra helps men perform, right? You do understand that it takes two to tango and make a baby, right? Why is it ok to support men in making their penis work, but not ok to make women’s health accessible and affordable? It seems that it would be easier to get vaginal rejuvenation covered if men wanted more women to have the the vagina of a young 20 something. But god forbid men want women to have accessible health resources.
While I’ve already stated that it’s not about abortion, it seems that that’s the only platform you will stand on. I’m not arguing reproductive rights with you. I’m just saying that when our government tries to move forward in equality, someone stands in the way.
And don’t tell me to stop forcing my belief. Your post initially was your opinion. I was simply debating the real issue at hand.
IT’S NOT ABOUT ABORTION
I am on birth control. I am not having sex. I need it for medical reasons. I have poly cystic ovarian syndrome. Untreated, this can cause diabetes and cancer. There is no cure. THE MAIN WAY TO TREAT IT IS BIRTH CONTROL. It should not be up to my employer whether or not I have access to this. It should be between me and my doctor. And don’t give me the argument that they would allow it for that — because there are people with insurance that didn’t cover it for the same reasons Hobby Lobby didn’t and even with labs and doctors’ letters they wouldn’t approve it for purely medical use. It is VERY difficult to work around that with insurance.
Use of the pill to treat these conditions would not be objectionable. We cannot legislate to the exception, however. This should be a consideration when choosing an employer.
There are other treatments for this condition that are better for you. I have a family member exploring these now. They are covered by insurance. I would encourage you to look into them.
I call bullshit. I am pretty sure you are just making up stuff so that you feel your argument can stand. The fact is, insurance companies have denied birth control needed for medical conditions in the past because of the employer’s stance and will continue to do so after this case. Making me choose an employment carefully instead of requiring a company to handle my insurance and my medical conditions in the same way they would with anyone else with a different health issue is not fair or just. This ruling is wrong and detrimental to those with my condition that don’t have a lot of options as far employment goes.
There are not other treatments for this condition that are better for me. Every single treatment plan includes birth control on a long term, but not necessarily, permanent basis. Other treatments include diet change and other medications such as Metformin/glucaphage (all of which I am doing) which not all insurance covers because they are diabetes medication and not identified as treatment for PCOS. You know how I know this? Because I got multiple doctor’s opinions — 3 general physicians, 2 ob/gyns, and 2 endocrinologists. Additionally, I read up on the condition as did my mother who is an R.N. and my best friend who is pediatrician so she could help explain things I didn’t necessarily understand 100%. You on the other hand just talked to a family member and believe that is basis of a solid argument.
You’re a troll using no logic and no research to make terrible arguments and can’t concede any points. This is the last I’ll say on this matter with you.
(Slow clap) also, let’s discuss the preventative health care benefits of birth control— prevents/decreases likelihood of MULTIPLE cancers, reduces symptoms of endometriosis, regulates irregular menstrual cycles, decreases / eliminates cramps, etc. I could go on. I really could. I will probably be the first woman in my family not to suffer from one or many of the above listed items. Two women in my family have had breast cancer, my great grandmother and great aunt died from ovarian cancer; my mom has endometriosis, our family has a high rate of miscarriages (30 %) and still births.
Tell me you don’t think my birth control should be covered. I will gladly give you my subsequent medical charges from the removal of my preventative care.
Sound great. Still not sure why someone who does not agree should be forced, against their conscience, to pay for you to have it. If the government believes it is critical to provide it for free, they should simply find another way to fund it.
The Duke of Norfolk: Oh confound all this. I’m not a scholar, I don’t know whether the marriage was lawful or not but– dammit, Thomas, look at these names! Why can’t you do as I did and come with us, for fellowship!More: And when we die, and you are sent to heaven for doing your conscience, and I am sent to hell for not doing mine, will you come with me, for fellowship?A Man for All Seasons by Robert Bolt